Three QBs, One Stiff-Arm Trophy

Saturday, December 13, 2008

The Heisman Trophy is awarded by the Downtown Athletic Club of New York tonight, and lately, you might as well call it the award that goes to the quarterback or running back who has the gaudiest stats on a team in the BCS bowl games, more often than not. Tim Tebow last year seems the exception to the rule based on his absolutely gaudy numbers. This year, it's Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford with the gaudy numbers, Tebow with good ones of his own, and Texas QB Colt McCoy who has great stats while having less talent around him to do it with.

I don't like this award at all, so if you ask me who I think will win, I'll say Bradford, even though he gets the stats because he runs all no-huddle (meaning more plays.) McCoy should win because he really is the Texas offensive engine, and the only reason Tebow is in the discussion with the other two this year is because he's in the BCS title game and everyone at ESPN and CBS have massive Tebowners. If he wins a second Heisman, it's more proof the award is a joke.

The problem is that this doesn't really tell you who the best or most valuable player is in college football. Michael Crabtree is on another planet, but since someone has to get the ball to him, it's tough -- he's probably the best player in the game. Defensive players don't get any shake on this unless they're Charles Woodson, who played both ways at Michigan (ask a Tennessee fan about that sometime), which means Rey Maualuga is SOL too.

Anyway, discuss it and enjoy the dragged-out ceremony.


During the Richmond - Northern Iowa game today, they said Steve McNair while at Alcorn State (I-AA) school finished third in Heisman voting. That would NEVER happen today.

I think part of the problem is so many voters work for ESPN, based on the comments many of the announcers the past couple weeks.

I think Crabtree deserves it.

jg said...
Dec 13, 2008, 8:22:00 PM  

Yeah if Tebow gets another Heisman he can kiss his pro career goodbye, ask Archie Griffin about how his pro career went with those two Heismans.

BillyB said...
Dec 13, 2008, 8:38:00 PM  

was that billy sims screaming "boomer"? what a drunken disgrace.

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2008, 9:00:00 PM  

Aaaand Bradford won...and you can probably say most college football fans who are not OU people didn't give a crap.

Signal to Noise said...
Dec 13, 2008, 9:03:00 PM  

I just want a count of how many times Bradford said 'unreal.'

Dec 13, 2008, 9:05:00 PM  

i need confirmation on billy sims.. cuz it ruined the whole thing.

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2008, 9:06:00 PM  

I agree with whoever yelled Boomer is a jackass. It's not enough they have the most annoying fight song. I bet if McCoy had played last week in the Big XII Championship game, he would have the Heisman. So the tie braker system robed Texas of the chance at the championship and Heisman.

walnuts said...
Dec 13, 2008, 9:43:00 PM  

Anyone else confused by Tebow getting 309 first place votes and Bradford 300? I know they aggregate this stuff, but that's just weird.

Although it does further confirm the media's raging hard-on for the good boy of college football.

Signal to Noise said...
Dec 13, 2008, 10:05:00 PM  

Anyone else get the feeling Tebow is one the juice?

Dec 13, 2008, 10:52:00 PM  

This award is like the NL or AL MVP. It is a popularity contest for a few select schools and if you don't go to one of those select schools, you have no chance. I would have voted for Harrell for the same reason that I would have voted for Colt Brennan of Hawaii last year.

JMNOR55 said...
Dec 13, 2008, 11:11:00 PM  

i dont see how anyone can argue that tebow isn't one of the best players in college football. he may not be a pro bowl nfl player, but he's clearly one of the best players in college football. if you were starting a college team and had to choose one of the finalists, i think you have to go with tebow for everything he brings to the table. i personally would've voted for crabtree, but it think it's a little harsh to say the award is a joke if tebow had won.

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2008, 12:01:00 AM  

@ billyb

Tebow can kiss his pro career goodbye anyway.

Most ex-Florida QBs don't have long successful pro careers.

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2008, 12:02:00 AM  

I was just watching the replay of the ceremony for tonight and the Herbstreit/McCoy interview begins: "Sitting here standing with Colt McCoy..."

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2008, 12:20:00 AM  

Well, once again, Texas is screwed by Oklahoma and Texas Tech is a complete afterthought. Let me tell you what, it's amazing what happens when you shove games down opponents throats. Look where it got Oklahoma. They are not better than Texas, they're just greedy. If OU does not shove it down TTU's throat then it's Texas in the National Championship and Colt McCoy winning the Heisman. And the fact that Bradford does have a stronger supporting cast around him does say something about how good Colt McCoy is.

I guess the lesson here is, if you're greedy and you shove it down people's throats, you get what you want in life. Great morals. However, sadly as it is, it's what the media enforces. I mean look at how The Greatness That Is Oklahoma has been covered since they bullied, er, I mean beat Texas Tech.

And yes, you could see Jackass Billy Sims yelling "Boomer" after they announced Bradford won the Heisman. Absolutely disgrace, disgusting, and disrespectful to the the other finalists. It took away from Bradford's moment, even though it wasn't exactly well-deserved. Then again, coming from a school that obviously doesn't preach sportsmanship, it really is surprising.

I'm not the biggest Florida fan and I don't have a Tebowner, but I hope they shove it down OU's throat in the National Title Game. OU is one of the most disrespectful universities in the country, and if you don't believe me, rewatch the Heisman ceremony. I guess this is what being humiliated by Boise State and West Virginia in back-to-back Fiesta Bowls does to you...

JFein said...
Dec 14, 2008, 12:42:00 AM  

Jfein, I agree. The Heisman trophy is a farse now. I used to like the award and its history, but it's getting ridilious. The media basically has an agenda for these guys. It's a shame that Harrel or Crabtree didn't get more consideration just because they aren't in a "traditional" powerhouse.

As for Tebow, he's officially made it now.

walnuts said...
Dec 14, 2008, 1:30:00 AM  

I'm a Pac10 UCLA fan, so I obviously have no horse in this race. But as a college football fan, I think its a disgrace. No way Bradford should have won.
For arguments sake, let's leave Tebow out of it for a moment and compare Bradford and McCoy.
QB ratings comparable, with Bradford slightly ahead. Bradford with more TDs but McCoy makes up some ground with rushing TDs.
Both 11-1 regular season and McCoy obviously beat Bradford head to head.
THE HUGE "can't believe the tools who vote for this award overlooked" DIFFERENCE?
Bradford had a senior offensive line (3 all Big 12, 1 second team all Big 12, 1 honorable mention), an all Big 12 fullback, all Big 12 tight-end, and TWO! (yes two) 1000 yard rushers in the backfield!
You don't think that makes it easier to throw??
Remember, I'm a Bruin fan, I know what it is to have no line and no running game.
McCoy had a mix of juniors and sophmores on the line and a freshman at center. He also had NO run support in the backfield. COLT McCOY LED TEXAS IN RUSHING!!!
To say McCoy carried this team is an understatement.
To deny him the Heisman just makes a bigger joke out of this award.

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2008, 1:47:00 AM  

separated at birth: Kirk Herbstreit and Colt McCoy

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2008, 11:05:00 AM  

no request is too extreme

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2008, 12:36:00 PM  

You mean it wasn't a joke when Paul Horning won? When Jim Brown finished 6th or whatever in the voting? It's always been like this. Back then, voters voted for any clown who played for Notre Dame. If you think it is a joke, it has ALWAYS been a joke, because it has never been different. Same shit, different pile.

And Tebow won the SEC Championship game. Alabama didn't lose to Florida, it lost to Tebow. He carried the team to the MNC game.

Ears Whitworth said...
Dec 14, 2008, 2:52:00 PM  

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