Round One: Shaq versus Walton

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

I missed this on Sunday morning, but apparently Bill Walton called out Shaq Diesel on Sports Center in a piece with Chris McKendry. Walton said that the trade is a "no win situation" for the center because he either lied in Miami by saying he couldn't play or he lied to the Suns by saying he would win a Championship.

Seems like a stretch, but here's the video. Let's play the feud!

Great response and I need to know more about this "Big Man Ordinance Code #225.27". Does it include a section about dunking on Shawn Bradley and/or a flopping code? I don't know what Bill Walton is trying to accomplish here, but his argument doesn't really make sense to me. Saying, "Shaq's arrogance is insult to people who think," is pretty messed up if you ask me.

Shaquille O’Neal Calls Bill Walton a Hypocrite Following Comments about Injuries (Transworld News)

Posted by Awful Announcing- at 11:54 AM


That video started the moment i hit the site. Luckily I had my sound off, but Bill Walton in class would be a bad thing

Brave Sir Robin said...
Feb 12, 2008, 12:13:00 PM  

Just like Randy Moss, once he played well in New England, it was an indictment on how he played in Oakland.

Jim said...
Feb 12, 2008, 12:24:00 PM  

Yeah if anyone knows how to make that stop i'd like to know....Bill Walton is driving me crazy.

Feb 12, 2008, 12:29:00 PM  


I think if you look at the embed thread, it says Play="true". Change that to false and it should be good

Brave Sir Robin said...
Feb 12, 2008, 12:33:00 PM  

Walton is a hypocrite because he too suffered through injuries?

Sure thing, Shaq.

Feb 12, 2008, 12:38:00 PM  

Shaq is one of two things:

1. a bum who wasn't playing hard in Miami despite his monstrous contract, which is what he has been implying since this trade went down.


2. thin-skinned about being broken down.

Kyle said...
Feb 12, 2008, 12:39:00 PM  

Walton's not wrong...Shaq's been unmotivated to play well since Miami's a terrible team. How is Wade supposed to feel to hear Shaq saying he's going to bring energy and a title to Phoenix? Where was that energy in Miami, Shaq?

Shaq needs to shut up, grow a pair, and quit worrying about what the media says about him.

Anonymous said...
Feb 12, 2008, 1:09:00 PM  

For someone who only played maybe 2-3 good seasons in his entire career and piggybacked a ring with the celtics [just like Shaq did with the Heat], Walton has a lot of nerve to call someone out for not playing hurt.

Shaq isn't the same Shaq we all marveled at in 'Blue Chips.' He can't completely take over a game at the drop of a hat. He needs significant help to make him look adequate. Old Riles built the team of hungry vets willing to stab a hobo for that ring and gutted it when those guys lost the fire to compete. Now what is left? A lot of mediocrity and a snow balls chance in hell of even making it out of the cellar of the East.

Shaq is just moving on from a situation that was declining fast. No need to harp on that.

Feb 12, 2008, 1:22:00 PM  

all you need to know about Walton is he smokes/smoked dope.

That should be all the insight you need.

Steve said...
Feb 12, 2008, 1:26:00 PM  

Steve, the only way Walton's dope smoking disadvantages him in this argument is if Shaq has never smoked dope either. I don't think anybody's ready to make that argument.

Regardless, I think "he's smoked dope, therefore he's necessarily wrong" is logic most people would find ridiculous even while high.

Your response is ad hominem just as much as Shaq's is and does nothing to address the substance of what Walton said. Shaq neither alleges nor proves that anything Walton said was wrong. He just personally attacks him. It comes off as insecure and as tacitly acknowledging the truth of Walton's allegations.

Free Vick said...
Feb 12, 2008, 1:38:00 PM  

I'm not the biggest Shaq fan, but that said, just stfu Bill. All of those Dead concerts finally had an effect on Walton.

Bruce said...
Feb 12, 2008, 1:38:00 PM  

Let me just add that the analogy Shaq draws between himself and Walton is bunk.

Both coped with injuries over their careers. But, to my knowledge, only Shaq turned around and then promised a new team that he would "get them over the hump" to win a championship.

Walton was broken down too. I understand that. But I am not aware that he ever had the arrogance (which is what he indicts in Shaq) to say, in spite of his physical state, that he was just what a team needed to win a championship and point at his ring finger and make all those representations.

Free Vick said...
Feb 12, 2008, 1:48:00 PM  

Walton may have piggybacked a title in Boston, but he also was THE reason Portland won one, so for Shaq to talk as though Walton was a worthless stiff is ludicrous.

Walton also never insinuated he was dogging it for the Clippers when Boston acquired him, and he didn't talk like he was the centerpiece that was going to lead Boston back to glory. He just did his job as Sixth Man.

I can see why Shaq feels the need to defend himself: for a decade he was the most dominant big man in the league. He's also probably quite aware that he was traded for a 20 point, 12 rebound per game guy and he's nowhere near that any more. But seriously, he until he puts up for Phoenix he needs to shut up.

Kyle said...
Feb 12, 2008, 2:15:00 PM  

Okay fixed it. Sorry about that.

Feb 12, 2008, 2:43:00 PM  

Aren't we all wondering if Shaq was pulling a Vince Carter in Miami? I have no problem with Walton calling bullshit on this.

GMoney said...
Feb 12, 2008, 3:53:00 PM  

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