FOX's Orange Bowl Production By The Numbers

Friday, January 04, 2008

Wow....where do you even start with this traveshamockery? How about I give you the Math and then we'll go to the videos. I noted that the Fiesta Bowl featured 58 individual shots of the respective team's bands yesterday, and most people (including myself) were amazed. There's so many more shots you could go to right? Well that was nothing. With the help of some of AA's favorite readers we tracked the total for the Orange Bowl and the numbers are staggering.....

Pregame 5 (Both Teams)

1st Half

Kansas 34
VT 16
First Half Total = 55

2nd Half

Kansas 37
VT 18
Second Half Total= 55

Grand Total of Only Band Shots = 110

One Hundred and Ten people. 110?!?!?! One hundred and ten specific shots devoted to each team's individual bands. Not the mascots, the players, the announcers or coaches.....the bands. Every single positive yardage play by the offense they went to a shot. Every single great defensive play the went to the shot. Every single.....end of the quarter they went to, um nothing???

What is she doing? I have no idea, but you had shots like that for about 50% of your entire broadcast. I think this quote from Fox Sports Head David Hill back in 2006 (Via reader Will) might have something to do with all of this......
Fox Sports head David Hill, at a meeting Monday with Fox affiliates, said Fox won't try "to reinvent the wheel" when it inherits each BCS game except the Rose Bowl, which will remain on ABC. Then he brought out the UNLV band to play what will be Fox's college football theme music and announced, "I love the bands."
Yeah you do. Yeah you f'ing do David. More on the announcing team and other nonsense tomorrow.

Fox pegs Thom Brennaman as BCS voice (USA Today)

Posted by Awful Announcing- at 12:04 AM


34 + 16 = 50... not 55.


Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 12:57:00 AM  

50 + 5 pregame = 55 before half.

twoeightnine said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:05:00 AM  

The difference between Fox and ESPN (both suck, BTW):

Fox gives you what they decide you should have, and they don't give a fuck what you think. Cowboys, Packers, and Marching Bands for Everyone!

ESPN really and truly thinks they are giving the audience what they want. The only problem is that the people they're getting advice from (or catering to) are a bunch of fucking idiots who don't speak for the serious sports fan.

At least, that's what I see.

J.J. said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:10:00 AM  

It's entirely possible that KU didn't have a terrible amount of fans at the game. They don't usually travel well.

prophetcat said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:39:00 AM  

Did you really count those? REALLY? You need to find a woman, man.

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 7:20:00 AM  

I love the band but not that much. I'm in the Cincy Band and I'm being told our band was not seen at all during the crappy pizza website bowl.

redlegsfan5 said...
Jan 4, 2008, 8:24:00 AM  

FYI to prophetcat: KU sold out it's allotment of 17,500 tickets back on Dec. 17. They travel just fine, actually.

monkypickl said...
Jan 4, 2008, 9:09:00 AM  

I hope FOX never gets March Madness!!

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 10:03:00 AM  

My wife would have helped me count if she would have been home.

Fox shows 110 shots of the marching bands during a 3 1/2 hour game. That's one less than every two minutes, and that doesn't even take out halftime and commercials. But you're going to laugh at the people who counted?

J.J. said...
Jan 4, 2008, 10:38:00 AM  

Can't wait to see what they do for the dotting of the i. I might have to Elvis my TV.

Jan 4, 2008, 10:44:00 AM  

Fox will probably demand that Simon or that guy from House dots the i.

And you know that the people from that K-Ville show will be there in some capacity, if it's still on the air.

J.J. said...
Jan 4, 2008, 10:50:00 AM  

I think that broad was shitting her pants. I can't hate the bands though, it is the only time in their pathetic lives that someone wants to put them on tv.

GMoney said...
Jan 4, 2008, 11:00:00 AM  

Are these the same people that produce Fox's baseball coverage? If so I'd say the shots of the band in football are an improvement over the hordes of fan in the stands shots in between every pitch in the post-season.
Another improvement in their football coverage is that you at least get to see the teams come to the line of scrimmage before each play. Their baseball coverage seems to ignore the field of play until the pitcher is in his windup and cuts to the no-attention-span-cam shots the moment the ball hits the catcher's mitt.

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 11:06:00 AM  

I'd take the "hordes of fan in the stands shot" any day, because at least that shot changes. I mean, did we really need to see that "Kansas band doing some stupid shit with their hands" shot 38 times? When Fox does that "fan in the stands shot" during baseball, they don't keep coming back to the same guy over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Unless it's Rudy Giuliani.

J.J. said...
Jan 4, 2008, 11:16:00 AM  

can't beleive that AA actually counted...and cant't add....also about the dotting i thing...I beleive there are rules to who can do it so "Simon or that guy from House" will not be dotting the i

rick said...
Jan 4, 2008, 11:25:00 AM  

Nothing like a dose of realism to ruin the funny.

(And remember to add the pregame, math-wizard.)

Jan 4, 2008, 11:37:00 AM  

I guess that is what happens when you watch football all the time with your laptop and a beer...

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 11:39:00 AM  

"I think that broad was shitting her pants. I can't hate the bands though, it is the only time in their pathetic lives that someone wants to put them on tv."

Wow, you are a complete idiot for that comment. At least kids in band will do something with their life and have an education while the football players who don't go to the NFL either drop out or get a kineiseeisloeirsoology degree

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:08:00 PM  

I watched this game last night and every shot of the band was driving me more and more insane. Since my buddy had tivo I was thinking about trying to count up all the shots myself but I am glad someone else did it. I actually had to stop watching the game b/c of this. I have issues.

BlackCapricorn said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:21:00 PM  

Yes, you do have issues man.
Just calm the fuck down and enjoy the game.
You people are pathetic

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:25:00 PM  

Anyone have the number of shots they did on the "DLP" camera? Had to be at least 25. That was even more annoying than the band shots.

I know...mix in a friggin REPLAY once and again. Also, stop cutting the replay off know...before we can see if the guys foot was in or out. Horrible producing.

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:38:00 PM  

I think we reached our peak on audience cut-away shots in the 2003 NBA playoffs when ABC would "cut to low-angle shots of attractive women in the stands" (that's the exact term used on Wikipedia.)

Draft King said...
Jan 4, 2008, 1:43:00 PM  

My wife and I used to be IN the band during football games, and even WE got sick of the band shots! And about 2/3 of those were the EXACT SAME CAMERA on the kansas band and the row in front of it. Anyone else get sick of the bald fat guy with the goatee??

Hokie Fan said...
Jan 4, 2008, 2:18:00 PM  

I am a ku student and I could barely focus on the game... I was going to go back on my DVR today and count so thanks for saving me the time. Gotta love the "Kansas fans don't usually travel well" idiot... Who had the louder crowd (guess we had more to cheer about?)? But the absurd thing about the band coverage was the 4 different angles they had on the KU band. Were they aware other people are in the stadium? And they weren't forced to be there unlike the bands who probably still have no clue we won

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 3:05:00 PM  

Yes -- horrible production. Maybe we'd like to see the replay? No, instead we need to see the band again. Or wait, maybe you can squeeze in another commercial before the next play....How about after the VT receiver got hurt in the 3rd, after an incomplete pass on left sideline on 1st down; they go to 3 minutes of commercials, and when coverage resumes Kansas has the ball?!?!?!

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 3:05:00 PM  

KU travels great. We had more fans there than VT did. Camera work was bad.

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 3:51:00 PM  

Hey GMoney,

Why don't you go play a game of hide and go fuc& yourself?

"I can't hate the bands though, it is the only time in their pathetic lives that someone wants to put them on tv."

Yes, because people that play music and perform in marching bands are pathetic. Don't get me wrong, showing the band 100+ times is crazy, especially since I'm trying to watch a football game, but calling bands "pathetic?" Get a life loser.

homertuck said...
Jan 4, 2008, 4:34:00 PM  

Sorry, homer, but band members are tools, social outcasts, and the unathletic AKA known as the groups of people that need to be ethnically cleansed.

GMoney said...
Jan 4, 2008, 5:26:00 PM  

strike that last "known as"...I think AKA is good enough.

GMoney said...
Jan 4, 2008, 5:26:00 PM  

The KU drum major is actually pretty cute...

Anonymous said...
Jan 4, 2008, 6:50:00 PM  

What's worse, seeing band shots, or hearing the OU Band play Boomer Sooner over and over and over. They must get sick and tired of playing that crap.

Anonymous said...
Jan 5, 2008, 12:56:00 AM  

Gmoney, you've got serious issues. Go blog some more about the loser MAC conference that no one will read.

Anonymous said...
Jan 5, 2008, 2:01:00 AM  

To all of you! I think your complaint is not with the band, rather the stupidity of FOX sports network. The drum major was waiting for guidance from a FOX representative whether to play or not. At this moment they dropped the ball and created a dead spot.

KU Marching Geek said...
Jan 5, 2008, 3:52:00 PM  

can't we all just get along?

PS Fox sucks!

Joe Novacek said...
Jan 8, 2008, 7:04:00 PM  

I'm offened you consider this a bad thing. Sure, no one really cares about the band. However, I can tell you from experience that the band members are an underappreciated part of Game Day. We work hard behind the scenes to try to make a football enjoyable and exciting for the fans. Working together with the football team is an honor. Making it on national television is a dream for most band members. Sure, we get a bad rap (who knows why), but I can tell you that being on TV was a dream come true for most of those band kids.

marchingtrum said...
Dec 23, 2009, 2:20:00 PM  

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