ESPN Erases Jeff From Chicago's Questioning Of Mike Golic From Podcast

Monday, November 12, 2007

I'm sorry if you're sick of this, but I can't let this go. I know that looking to Mike Greenberg for journalistic integrity is lunacy (like many of you mentioned on Friday), but how hypocritical is ESPN for not lambasting Mike Golic for admitting to taking Steroids? It really blows my mind after all of the Barry Bonds pieces, a person mind you who has never been found guilty of taking performance enhancing drugs knowingly. They don't seem to even care about the admission.

How much do they care you ask? THEY TOOK THE CALL OUT OF THE PODCAST! You have to have ESPN Insider to hear it, but I've listened to the segment three times now, and it's not in there (please tell me if you find it and where, if you listen).

Mike and Mike debate the Troy Williamson situation (Mike and Mike Audio)

I thought Jeff in Chicago did us a great service in calling into the show to call out Mike Golic, and I think it's amazing that he did so after reading the item on this website. Apparently ESPN is going to pretend like this never happened.

Here's what another reader, KJ in Cincinnati had to say about the call......

I don't think Jeff in Chicago is getting enough credit for his call. I was driving to work listening to Mike & Mike (only because the local guys on another station were at commercial) and caught Jeff's call. It was nothing short of brilliant. He led so convincingly with the question about the topic they were discussing, then turned on a dime from lamb to lion with a "So Golic, did really you do steroids?" It was such a stunner, I expected the cars humming south with me down I-71 to all screech to a halt. It was almost a Borat-like infiltration of the media machine, it was that good.

I do give M&M credit, the awkward pause was relatively short: Golic jumped in with a "yeah I did for two weeks to try to recover from an injury" with Greenie adding a quick "I don't how that relates to the topic" (or something like that -- weenie) and picking up the previous discussion as if nothing had happened.

I'm sure Golic's a decent guy, and I'm sure if you haven't played in the NFL you can never relate to the pressure to recover from injury and get back on the field. That said, I would hope ESPN is working right now to turn this from a positive into a negative, and let Golic tell his story and educate the audience. What does he tell his football-playing boys, for instance? Is he on record talking smack about, say, Shawne Merriman, and if so does he regret it? About Barry Bonds? If he's been hypocritical, this is a great opportunity to "man up" (heh) and give fans an insider perspective on the whole performance-enhancing thing.
Amen KJ.....amen. This is just the first in a long line of deletions by ESPN as of late and it's getting a bit annoying. The "Leader" edited out a few comments from Lisa Salter on E:60 recently (which they then said was a "transferring issue", and even took down the video of Barry Melrose trashing Newark, New Jersey.

Add all of this up and combine it with anything Chris Mortensen reports, and WWE taking on CNN for editing their video and you have to wonder if any news is true these days. A wise man once told me to "believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." I don't think there's a more pertinent time than now to subscribe to that tenet.

I genuinely like Mike Golic on the radio, but someone needs to shed some light on this.

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Posted by Awful Announcing- at 9:42 AM


So ESPN denies that these things ever existed.

Sort of like the Reggie Bush investigation.

Sorry to sort-of threadjack there.

Anonymous said...
Nov 12, 2007, 10:34:00 AM  

No problem Anon....threadjack away. Anything to get a debate going. Add that to the list.

Nov 12, 2007, 10:36:00 AM  

If the Texans beat the Saints next week and Mario Williams has a good game, I want ESPN to issue a public apology to him.

Ain't gonna happen, but I'd love to see it.

I mean, why would you want Mario Williams when you could have a guy who averages 3.8 a carry and catches a bunch of 5-yard swing passes! Talk about a franchise player and the next Gale Sayers!

Anonymous said...
Nov 12, 2007, 10:44:00 AM  

Derek Anderson would also like to know when he's losing his job to Brady Quinn.

Nov 12, 2007, 10:48:00 AM  

It's sad that ESPN has become the modern-day version of the Nixon White House. Any good will that they had built up with me is quickly eroding.

Bruce said...
Nov 12, 2007, 10:55:00 AM  

Ahem, there's one "t" in Cincinnati. And there's two "o"'s in Goose, boys.

WhoDey said...
Nov 12, 2007, 11:00:00 AM  

Is that like an old mnemonic device for Ohians?

Nov 12, 2007, 11:12:00 AM  

honestly... it annoys me more that they tried to brush it off than that golic actually took steroids. seems more and more like everyone in football did it at some point.

matt said...
Nov 12, 2007, 11:24:00 AM  

It's just the hypocrisy of the whole situation. I don't think they should release names in the Mitchell Report, because it's not going to be anywhere near a complete list. The people named are going to be screwed (when everyone was doing it) and a ton of people are going to get of scot free.

Barry Bonds is satan, but Shawn Merriman is a hero. People need to face facts, Barry Bonds hit all those home runs against people that were also on steroids, and didn't break any rules. Shawn Merriman broke rules and got to go to Hawaii. It's total bullshit.

Phil said...
Nov 12, 2007, 11:47:00 AM  

Maybe they did take it out of the Best Of podcast, but they didn't take it out of the show podcast. Listen at the 8:55 mark of this podcast entry and you'll hear the question.

So Golic admitted to doing steroids for two weeks, what, fifteen, twenty years ago, and somehow this makes him a hypocrite? Guess if you're a reformed smoker, alcoholic, substance abuser, etc. you don't get the right to criticize others. I hope you don't make a mistake reporting on journalists or I guess you'll have to close your blog down.

Anonymous said...
Nov 12, 2007, 11:48:00 AM  

No offense, but that was the most idiotic analogy I've ever heard. It's one thing for someone in AA to counsel another since they've admitted they've had a problem.

With your analogy Golic isn't the counselor, he's like the drunk uncle that shows up at your Intervention.

You can't criticize and then admit. That's the definition of a hypocrite. If say Jose Canseco wants to lecture others on the dangers of Steroids...that would make that analogy make sense.

Look, (most) everyone deserves a 2nd chance, but you have to explain yourself first....which ESPN or Golic isn't doing.

Nov 12, 2007, 12:00:00 PM  

Golic seems like he would probably want to go on the record about the situation. Greeny, on the other hand, sees the marketability of the 'effeminate journalist & ex-player' angle they've been playing up for a while could be tainted slightly if this thing mushroom clouds past the blogs. There is no excuse for editing out the call. That's censorship. Plain and simple.

All the offense to Cowturd, M&M is ESPN radio's flagship and to have it struck with the iceberg that is the JUICE would be devastating. [Take that metaphor, Norman Mailer. Wait. Too slow.]

Nov 12, 2007, 12:11:00 PM  

I never would've thought Golic would ingest something that didn't come out of a vending machine.

Jarrett Carter said...
Nov 12, 2007, 12:12:00 PM  

A wise man once told me to "believe none of what you hear and half of what you see."
Just wondering if you were on some Disney ride when Franklin, Ben told you that.

/I keed, I keed

Nov 12, 2007, 12:57:00 PM  

People still get it wrong. Bonds admitted to using the cream/clear substance that WAS steroids. He has yet to admit he took the knowingly.

We know he juiced, we just don't know the extent, and if he knew what he was doing...

Anonymous said...
Nov 12, 2007, 1:59:00 PM  

I think the real journalistic issue isn't that ESPN deleted/erased parts, but that Greenburg totally pussied out as a journalist. How do you pay this guy all that money and then let him slide on an obvious whiff like this?

It only makes me think that the subject of Golic and steroids had already been discussed privately between the two and therefore Greenie considered it a "non issue" that he didn't need to renew on the air. He should have at least made Golic explain it on the air.

I didn't like Greenie before, now I loath him.

Anonymous said...
Nov 12, 2007, 3:07:00 PM  

I wonder what the Ombudswoman thinks about all this.

odessasteps said...
Nov 12, 2007, 4:36:00 PM  

"It really blows my mind after all of the Barry Bonds pieces, a person mind you who has never admitted...taking performance enhancing drugs."

Except to a federal grand jury of course. You're right, you can't believe what you read. Not even here.

kbr7171 said...
Nov 12, 2007, 5:05:00 PM  

It's sad because ESPN usually makes great hay out out of any whiff of scandal. Last summer Jose Canseco intimated that his new book would have dirt on A-Rod. That very thin story was big news on ESPN. The Golic story is important because he is often asked to give his position on steroid issues. And I don't believe the "I took it to recover from an injury" excuse for a second. It's just replaced the tainted supplement excuse. Sounds like Golic has something he feels guilty about. Also sounds like Greenberg has heard the story before.

Eric said...
Nov 12, 2007, 5:31:00 PM  

You're criticizing Golic for getting on Bonds about steroids without admitting his own. Unless you know something we all don't, you're not following up on some third-party report that discovered Golic got suppliments from some BALCO-esque company back in '87. When questioned (indirectly) about it, he freely admitted it on the air when questioned. To me, that makes this story so much hot air about nothing.

Maybe Greenberg didn't follow up on that line of questioning to your satisfaction (yeah, like co-hosts on *any* sports/news show ever try to air their collegues' dirty laundry), but the mere fact that Golic has used steroids doesn't mean he can't be critical about other people in sports using steroids.

In this very post, you were critical of ESPN for deleting a portion of a a podcast and insinuated it was because they were protecting their own: a fact of which you've since been proven wrong, given the full-length podcast available on ESPN's own website. I seriously doubt you'll stop you criticism of "awful" announcing because of it, and I wouldn't expect you to. I personally won't criticize you for continuing to report on the media because you've reported on something without all the facts straight. And, thus, neither will I criticize Golic for criticising steroid users either before or after he admitted his own use.

Anonymous said...
Nov 12, 2007, 5:48:00 PM  

Did this wise man happen to be M1?

Zwill said...
Nov 12, 2007, 5:50:00 PM  

I think Golic could have just got more natural, honest honey into his diet and he'd have been better off.

hollywood wags said...
Nov 12, 2007, 5:58:00 PM  

Don't mean to change the subject here, but after listening to the Lisa Salters/parkour debate, I find it ironic that people from a network that shows endless amounts of poker wouldn't want to talk about parkour partly because "it isn't a sport."

ESPN = hypocrisy

keyser soze said...
Nov 12, 2007, 6:31:00 PM  

The lot of you are morons, especially the author of this blog.

Did any of you geniuses ever think about this: Steroids are often prescribed after surgery to help the healing process.

I happened to hear the broadcast, and Golic said he took them after he got his shoulder operated on.

Before you wonderfully intelligent folks say that I'm somehow affiliated with ESPN or something, I'm not. But the blogosphere is so quick to pounce on ESPN because they can't think of anything good to write, they fail to think about the possibilites of something not being such a big deal.

Why so many of you care so deeply about a human being who talks about sports for a living is beyond me. Who cares? If you don't like it, hit mute. Or don't watch. We have that freedom. ESPN is not a state sponsored channel. Don't like it? Don't watch.

Kyle Smith said...
Nov 13, 2007, 10:20:00 AM  

Okay, my last point on this until the Ombudswoman brings it up in her column....if you disagree.

I could care less that Golic took steroids. A ton of people that played then took steroids to recover from injury, a ton took them to gain advantage, and one famous one died because of them. Golic can admit to whatever he wants to on-air.

The point(s) that some of you don't seem to get is that it until we know for sure that he was prescribed them for an injury....he shouldn't be bashing others who take the drugs. The fact that Greenberg or anyone else from ESPN hasn't addressed this makes me immediately think that something is up. Wouldn't you specifically address this if someone questioned you live on-air? Of course you would.

Jeff caught them off guard and they couldn't come up with something fast enough.

As far as the audio.....Do you know why I didn't listen to the whole show to find the clip? BECAUSE THEY BREAK EACH SEGMENT OUT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO DIGEST THE NEXT DAY! No one goes back and listens to a whole show! I went straight to the clip labeled "Troy Williamson" and the audio is not in there. It's deleted out, and you can almost pinpoint the exact spot.

As far as you Kyle, please subscribe to the same theory you're proposing to us....don't read AA. I do the same for the 15 blogs you write for.

Nov 13, 2007, 10:32:00 AM  

Hi again... I'm enjoying watching this to see how it all plays out while gently pushing the issue when I have a chance. I originally called in to Mike & Mike while driving to work, and I had another chance to call in to ESPN radio this afternoon while driving.

The afternoon show on ESPN Chicago is "Mac, Jurko, and Harry," and one of their weekly segments is called "Critics at Extra-Large." In this bit, the hosts ask callers to give a thumbs up or down for something in sports media during the past week.

I called, told the screener why I was calling, and they immediately put me on the air. I gave my thumbs down to Mike & Mike for not addressing or discussing Golic's admission of steroid use in a substantive way. The hosts, including former NFL'er John Jurkovic, agreed with me and spoke for about one minute about it. They all said that this was an area that M&M should discuss on air.

As I said before, I think that we can pretty well force their hands by continuing to discuss the topic. And, I find the idea of Greeny continuing to find clever ways to avoid talking about this to be tremendously amusing.

Jeff in Chicago said...
Nov 13, 2007, 5:15:00 PM  

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